What's the general Opponion...

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura)
02/11/2014 at 20:55 • Filed to: None

On Boxsters?

DISCUSSION (47)

Brian Silvestro > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 20:57

I DD'd an '05 for about a year. Fucking loved every second of it, even though it was that awful tiptronic. It didn't matter to me because I was only 17 at the time. Still, so damn fun, never had an issue with it.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:00

S, manual or go home.

Lets Just Drive > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:00

I just realized that I have virtually no opinion what-so-ever regarding the Boxster.

This revelation is quite shocking to me.

dogisbadob > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:01

The first Boxsters were awful and cheap, and the snow traction is pathetic for a car made in Finland. Also, there is no way to access the engine except on a hoist. Hard to believe a car like that could save Porsche's life and that Toyota was involved (they showed Porsche how to streamline some shit, like sharing headlights with the 996)

Newer Boxsters got better, to the point that Porsche has to cripple them from the factory.

Manuél Ferrari > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:01

They are fun to drive.

And damn sexy:

Kinja'd!!!

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 21:02

DAT SPYDER

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 21:02

One of the best looking modern Porsches out there

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 21:03

My dad wants one so bad, but forgets that exists a lot. I should remind him to buy one before the prices shoot up!

Stef Schrader > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:07

It's a convertible, so naturally, I like the Cayman better, but...the hardtop mounts on the inside, IIRC. Would totally buy and leave the hardtop on. There was a red one for sale at the time when I didn't know if they were going to total the Lulzcer or not, too. Very. Tempting.

Kinja'd!!!

I have mild want for a Spec Boxster, too.

That engine makes me nervous, but I can't help it. I...I....Iiiiiiii....it's a stupid little poop Porsche. I need them all.

NoahthePorscheGuy > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:08

Dad has a 99. First sports car I ever rode it. Amazing. Now its a trackday beast.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 21:09

Seriously!

Prices WILL go up.

Will he break his no used cars rule for it??

I think there was a Jalopnik FP post on it. Pretty sure it was Jalopnik, but may have been other site. Either way it was awesome. It talked about how amazingly awesome the car is. It's less practical but it doesn't matter because it is so damn fun.

Übel > dogisbadob
02/11/2014 at 21:10

Dude, are you high? It's a mid-engined, RWD roadster. How the hell do you expect it to perform in the snow?

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 21:10

I'm sending him listings now. Their asses are so nice.

Jayhawk Jake > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:12

I love them. The older one's are overly attractive, but damned if they aren't a blast.

I sincerely think I will own one someday...maybe. If I can't get an R8, I'll settle for a Boxster/Cayman

AndersSim - V10'ING > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:15

Cayman's are better. But from 2nd generation and on I love them, I just can't stand the 1st gen, I think its butt ugly.

PRBot II > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:16

Only Porsche I like. Yeah I said it.

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 21:23

You had a Boxter when you were 17!?!

Brian Silvestro > No Prius Needed
02/11/2014 at 21:25

My dad bought it as a mid-life crisis car, but never used it. I needed a car to get to work and such, and the Boxster was the only car available.

dogisbadob > Übel
02/11/2014 at 21:27

Snow tires? :p

I was just trying to be funny tying together where the car was made and all the fun that goes on there!

dogisbadob > PRBot II
02/11/2014 at 21:28

The only Porsche you like? You mean, you don't like the best Porsche ever? :p

Kinja'd!!!

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 21:29

Sadly my dad's mid life crisis car is a Lexus ES300...

Brian Silvestro > No Prius Needed
02/11/2014 at 21:30

That's a shame....

PRBot II > dogisbadob
02/11/2014 at 21:30

Meh. Ugly and outdated. I'm a bastard, I know.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Stef Schrader
02/11/2014 at 21:31

What's wrong with the engine? ._.

Biapilotaceman > dogisbadob
02/11/2014 at 21:34

There's engine access from a hatch above the engine, a hatch behind the seats in the cabin, and from the rear fender wells. You certainly don't need a hoist. The engine can't even be lifted up out of the car. You simply jack up the car and lower the engine if you need to get to the internals.

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 21:36

He thought he needed something faster so he got an Audi Q5 3.2 but sadly my first car is going to be the ES...

Biapilotaceman > AndersSim - V10'ING
02/11/2014 at 21:37

Kinja'd!!!

First gens can be pretty tooooooooo :D

Stef Schrader > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:38

Intermediate shaft bearings tend to nuke themselves in spectacular fashion and (less common) some have issues with the block construction itself.

Luckily, most people have these issues when the car is <60K or so, so the common thought is that a higher-mileage Box is less likely to grenade if it hasn't done anything funky by then. But then you're getting a high-mileage entry-level Porsche, and, uh, yeah.

Would still hoon all day, err'day. Yes.

Biapilotaceman > Lets Just Drive
02/11/2014 at 21:40

You should be having feelings!

Kinja'd!!!

Biapilotaceman > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/11/2014 at 21:43

I love mine. :3

Kinja'd!!!

No Prius Needed > No Prius Needed
02/11/2014 at 21:46

And not a Miata :(

Lets Just Drive > Biapilotaceman
02/11/2014 at 21:50

The Cayman, it stirs me a little but the Boxster just never has. Don't know why. Even having said that, I'd not look at a Cockster either.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 21:55

omg if your dad got one that would be so awesome

if i didn't already have the 997 and wanted a porsche i would seriously consider the spyder

Brian Silvestro > No Prius Needed
02/11/2014 at 22:08

*starts crying*

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:10

also random car thought not related to porsches at all (as they never released a single clutch sequential manual for the street). i've written some about this topic on oppo posts i created but not sure if you saw them as they were a while ago.

i was driving the E90 M3 DCT home just now after a solid week of driving the 997 6MT.

it really solidified my thoughts on something that would sign insane to most (at least one person on oppo agreed with me but most wouldn't): flappy paddle gearboxes aren't the problem, DCTs are the problem.

transmissions such as SMG, F1 and E-Gear are fun because they are imperfect. they force you to shift the gears yourself to drive more smoothly. driving those cars in auto mode is terrible. the computer may be able to predict when to shift but it's still better if you control it so that you can decide whether to lay off the throttle a bit. and it's disconcerting when the computer shifts when you don't expect it because those transmissions don't have instant and drama-free mechanical shifts like the DCTs do.

DCTs are so damn good that driving in auto mode often makes a lot more sense than using the paddles. i swear my E90 can time when to shift better than my brain can in 99% of situations, whether while cruising or driving hard. with a DCT the human becomes redundant. the shifts are super smooth and when 7 gears are involved it's hard for the human brain to memorize the ideal shift points for max gas mileage when puttering around or max performance when driving hard. while it seems obvious to wait until redline to shift when driving hard it's still easier to let the computer do it when the engine revs insanely fast and the gear ratios are short. things are moving so fast that you're better off keeping your hands on the wheel and focusing on driving.

but with a 6 speed sequential gearbox you're almost never better off letting the computer shift for you. which keeps you engaged. they really do feel just like a 6MT except you use the paddles to shift instead of your foot and right hand. it may not be as engaging as a stick but it's still engaging. and many of them make wonderful mechanical noises when gear changes happen. you feel like you're driving a race car with a sequential 6 speed box (as many have).

i think we will end up mourning both the stick and the 6 speed sequential boxes once the DCT revolution is complete. actually some of us like me that have owned a robotized 6 speed will mourn them more as sticks will (hopefully) always be available with certain models. but the single clutch 6 speed will be dead for SURE once the Aventador gets a DCT or the replacement of the Aventador comes out with one.

DCTs are definitely the most boring of the non-slushbox and non-CVT transmissions. especially for commuting around in the city.

where i do like DCTs is on the highway when there is traffic or if i had a chance to drive a sports car on track competitively. my E90 is all business. if i need to drive to a meeting and might hit traffic the E90 is the right choice all the way. if i need to drive to LA and deal with their godawful traffic the E90 is also the right choice. just put it in auto and focus on all the hazards of driving. and driving on track would be great if lap times really matter as your mind can really focus on racing lines when both hands are on the wheel and that's all that matters.

goodbye sweet flawed robot 6. i for one will miss you.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 22:10

I don't know why he wouldn't, he seriously loves the looks.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:10

dude you gotta make it happen.

he would be a legend

and eventually he would let you drive it

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 22:12

Well it would probably be like the last Boxster he had! (I drove that shit all the time) I'd drive it like it was meant to be driven.

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:14

And I won't be able to autox it, or add lightness by stripping the interior, or modify it, and theres no handbrake, and its a slushbox, and there isn't enough power to do reverse donuts. So it is the perfect car for anyone who is dead.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:14

oh wait it in only came in 6MT as far as i know

isn't it hard for him to drive a stick cause it causes pain?

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 22:15

Actually the only 3 certified Spyders on cars.com are PDKs

Brian Silvestro > No Prius Needed
02/11/2014 at 22:16

It sounds about exciting as a dead person, so that seems accurate.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:16

i never knew it came with PDK. the more you know!

do they have paddles or those stupid early PDK toggles on the wheel itself?

if only there was a 6 speed robotized manual. that is what i would pick X-D

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari
02/11/2014 at 22:17

LOL robot manuals! The one that is nearest us is with the actual paddles.

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:21

It can get kind of exciting especially when trying to go up hills and bridges since you have to floor it and goes all VTEC KICKED IN but it is still a pain to try and overtake something like an elantra or a cobalt.

Brian Silvestro > No Prius Needed
02/11/2014 at 22:24

Wait VTEC? So much hilariousness is possible now. All is not lost. Every time you're in the car (even when you're alone) just yell "VTEC just kicked in yo!"

No Prius Needed > Brian Silvestro
02/11/2014 at 22:32

Needs moar Initial D music.